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chess game with Borim Luneshar
The e-mail below between Harvey Mayo and my friend Borim Luneshar are authentic and unabridged with all images, and my comments between are in green -- read and learn about how an sly dog works! Borim opens the game with a clear and simply request: Fr�n: Borim Luneshar (tranibor at hotmail dot com -- replace "at"
with "@" and "dot" with".") Hello Harvey! ...and Harvey replies with the standard answer: Fr�n: Harvey Mayo (HarvMayoDesign at aol dot com) Mr. Luneshar, I would like to talk by phone on the model, please email me your contact number, or call me at (818)985-8636, leave message if I dont't pick up. Thank you for your interest in a Time Machine model, Harvey Of course Harvey will always have the answering machine turned on -- this is his booby-trap! Don't trip into it, or else you will hear Harveys sly and smooth honey-voice which will drain you of cash! That's why the numbers are blanked out! So, if phone-calls in this case are DANGEROUS and can't be recorded, then... Fr�n: Borim Luneshar Hello Mr. Mayo! Borim is not handicapped
nor deaf -- it is only an excuse to avoid talking with Harvey by phone!
Remember: phone-made agreements are the most dangerous ones! And Harvey can't call his bluff... (this is a sort of "poker-chess") Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Mr. Luneshar, Thanks for getting back to me on a model, sorry about the
phone situation, but email is fine. I would like to know about were your
located, I am in North Hollywood, Calif. my address is 6353
Teesdale Ave, North Hollywood, Ca., 91606, I guess you could write
to me as well if you want. To construct a working model of the miniature,
like the one in the film, the dish will spin, and control panel lights
will function, the rear drive assembly light, and the engine pods will
light as well. All parts will be hand made with high quality materials,
hardwood for the base and chair, brass for the rails and drive unit. The
lever on the control panel operates the machine. All wiring is inside
the rails, and in the base, along with the battery, so everything is self
contained on the machine, just place on the table and push the lever forward.
I would email you, or sent you a formal layout of what I will do, if you
decide to move forward with the model. The cost for the Time machine model
is $4,500, I will guarantee the work, so if their should be any problems,
I will correct them at my cost. I am not a fast model builder, but I do
very good work, I will email you some info on me, and some pictures of
my work. I started on my interest in time machine in the early sixties,
so I have a long history in Time Machine. I used to work for Walt Disney,
I left in 1984, and then I started my own business, doing models and props
for the film and TV industry, as well as other items like industrial design
prototypes, items for the toy industry, Architectural models, etc. The
Time Machine model is not a production piece, it is all hand made, each
one I do, that is what gives it it's value, a one of as kind piece. Please
let me know as soon as possible, so I can plan for the project, and thank
you for your interest, I look forward to your email back. This is the standard description of Harvey's work and models. Tempting, isn't it? Especially for the ones who are real Time Machine lovers as Borim.. That's why I have blanked out Harvey's contact info to protect the public. Fr�n: Borim Luneshar Hello Mr. Mayo! Everyone haggle over the price of something very expensive... Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Mr. Luneshar, If you are really ready to move forward now on a model,
I will reduce my price to $3,500. Again, the model is all hand made with
quality materials, you have to be pleased, for I guarantee my work. Maybe
you could cover the shipping cost, if you can. Harvey reduced the cost with $1000! Hallelujah! What a bait! If someone swallows it with hook and everything... Fr�n: Borim Luneshar Hello Mr. Mayo! Kunnaklara AB It is important to have the name of the Kunnaklara collective FIRST in
the address -- or else the letter or the model will be returned to the
sender! I am very interested in images of the progress in your model-work,
so when you start to build the model -- place the pieces (and then the
half finished and then the finished model) on a newspaper with the actual
date and send me the images as jpg-files. I am looking forward to get
the model and a lot of pictures which describes how the work is progressing!
Kunnaklara AB is an existing collective, yes, but not for deaf or wheel-chaired persons. Nor does persons stay overnight there. If Harvey can bluff, so can Borim... Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Mr. Luneshar, Thank you for getting back to me on the model. I will need at least a 50 to 60 % deposit on the model to start construction, when the model is 3/4 complete, per your approval of my progress, I would like another 25% payment, then the balance at completion, again per your approval of the work. I will email you some pictures of my work, and some info. today. I promise you that I will keep you posted on the construction, so you can see the quality of my work and the progress. Is their a phone number of the place you are living at, and can I leave any messages their with someone, if I need to, or is email the only way we can communicate?. I will email you an agreement on what I will do for the cost of $3,500 for the model, so you will have all the details in writing and your deposit receipt, for your records. You can wire the money to my bank if you can, that would be the safest way, or let me know how you could get me the deposit to start. My bank information if you want that, the wire transfer # 026009593, the Routing # 121000358, my account # 0220445730, the Bank address, Bank of America, 6551 Van Nuys Blvd., Van Nuys, CA. 91401. This is your decision on how you send the deposit. My personal mailing address is---- Harvey Mayo, 6353 Teesdale Ave., North Hollywood, Calif. 91606-3127. Also a postal money order works as well, and might be easier for you, let me know either way. Thanks again, Mr. Luneshar, I appreciate the order very much, Harvey Mayo ps, I work late in the evening as well, so you can email me any time you can, Thanks. Of course Borim will not talk with Harvey on his working-ours. But Harvey has not
given up yet: he sends a lot of images to Borim. They are nothing but
classic bait: a lot of poorly scanned images, that you can not see how
old they are. Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Some of my earlier work
This one above, the oldest and most complete from the full size machine, I call "model A". Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Rod Taylor signed picture for me with one of my models
The image above is very poor, but I think it is "model A" in its Tantalus box. Fr�n: Harvey Mayo My company brochure
This is "model A" again -- it's exactly the same image as the first one! (look at the shadows) Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Another working Time Machine model for another customer
This model above from the full size Time Machine I call "model C". Fr�n: Harvey Mayo My first start on Time Machine models in High school
A very poor unreadable image, but it looks like "model A". This article is from 1965. Fr�n: Harvey Mayo An article on me in Starlog magazine
This article above is from august 1980 and shows "model A". Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Another model for a client
This model from the Wah Chang miniature, once owned by Chris Perrotta I call "model B". Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Miniature chippendale secretary I made, 4 1/2 inches high
Nice secretary model, but very old and not relevant. Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Louis XV writing desk in miniature, 3 inches tall, doll house scale I made.
For the second time: nice, but very old and not relevant. Also the upper image is the same as in his company brochure. Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Miniature guitar I made for customer for his collection, 5 inches long
For the third time: nice, but very old and not relevant. Also, it's the same image as in his company brochure. Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Insert sheet in a music CD, showing my model, Pals Movies
This is "model A" once again. Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Reference letter from Walt Disney imagineering when I left.
With "model A"
he was hired by Disney -- but it was several years ago. Borim begins to smell a rat and calls Harvey's bluff: Fr�n: Borim Luneshar Hello Mr. Mayo! Harvey thinks he can outwit Borim -- but Borim sees that the images shows only four different models, made in a span of 40 years! And what is very suspicious in the mail below: why doesn't Harvey keep an ongoing inventory of materials to the Time Machine models, if he offers to build them? Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Mr. Luneshar, The pictures I sent you cover my long term involvement in Time Machine, some of them are within the last few years, I don't produces Time Machines on a regular basis, only by request for a collector, but I wanted to show you some of my work over the last 40 years, your model would be of top quality, just like the film, of-course their is the choice of the miniature version, like you see in the film, or a miniature of the full size, that is your choice. Their is some slight differences from the small model you see in the film, and the full size version, like the artwork on the dish is more complex on the full size, the chair more detailed on the full size, then on the miniature, etc. On all the work I do for any client in my business, or any collector, for I am in business, I require a deposit, especially on custom hand- made items like the Time Machine, their are materials enveloped, and I do not keep an ongoing inventory of supplies for the Time Machine, only as an order comes in for it, Plus their is at least a couple of hundred hours of labor to construct the model, and I will not invest all that time and materials unless an order is backed by a deposit, I am sure that if you ordered a custom piece of furniture, or any item that was not a production item, you would have to put up a deposit, to bind the order, my wife last year ordered custom drapes, and we had to put up a deposit in-order for them to do the work. The choice is yours on what you want to do, sorry it has to be that way, and if it can't work this way for you, and I respect your choice, then a least we met and it was nice to talk with you, and to share your interest in Time Machine. I wish you the best, and again thanks for contacting me, Harvey Mayo Harvey is checked! But he send one more bait... Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Did this about 2 1/2 years ago, for Client in London(working model).
This is "model
C" again -- the same as shown on one of the previous old images! Now Borim send his bait... Fr�n: Borim Luneshar Hello Mr. Mayo! Harvey is checked again! But he tries to wriggle himself out... Fr�n: Harvey Mayo Mr. Luneshar, The client in London is an investment banker, and does alot of his work overseas, and travels alot, he is not easy to reach. The model I made for him took about 4 months, from start to completion, I am a one man business, but I do bring in other craftmen to help on larger film projects, as needed, I am usually working on more then one project at the same time, but on specialty projects like the Time Machine, I construct them all myself, for it is my quality that the client wants. I understand your concern Borim, for $3,500 is not a small amount of money, but it is still fair for the piece you will receive. I have been living and working in North Hollywood for 29 years, and I have always lived in L.A., since I was 5 years old. I am married for 32 years, have two children, both boys, one 29, one 26 years old. Like I said before I guarantee my work, I want you to be happy with the model. I reduced the cost because I felt it might have been too costly for your budget, but their is alot of work that goes into making this model, and I will do the same quality job, even thought I reduced the price for you. I know you are concerned about the money, but I must tell you that I would not take you money, and then not produce a model for you, that would be wrong. I have been in my one business for over 22 years, before that, I worked for Walt Disney company for 7years, then I went out on my own. I have no desire to hurt you, I just want to build you a nice model, and you contacted me. If you are still concerned about trusting me after you have sent me money, to build your model, then maybe it is best not to start, Mr. Luneshar, for I don't want you to be stressed out about this project. I would keep you posted on my progress, at all times, and when the model is complete, I will also give you an appraisal for its value. The desision is yours, and I promise that I will do my best on your model if you decide to move ahead with the project. Thank you again, Mr. Luneshar, and take care. Please let me know either way, Yours Truly, Harvey Mayo Of course Harvey will not give the name nor the address of the London client -- because that client is simply not existing! And remember: he writes that it took 4 months from start to completion of the Time Machine model -- the deceived ones have waited for YEARS for their models! Borim makes his move... Fr�n: Borim Luneshar Hello Mr. Mayo! Will Harvey Mayo be check-mated? Or can he wriggle himself out of this? To be continued... ...just click here to see the conclusion!
Sandra Petojevic, Master of Arts, May 17, 2007 (Updated May 23, 2007)
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